A big stepping stone while doing your PhD is the time when you change your “status” from being simply known as a grad student, to becoming a PhD trainee (or senior graduate student). To achieve that glorious state meant that you have successfully gone through the qualifying exam(s) period, and essentially, your last examination will be your thesis defense. Quals, or comps (comprehensive exams) were the big thing. And I mean BIG … you hear stories about X or Y department, that have the worst reputation, or Prof. W, who’s an ass and could be in your examination committee, and finally those people, those students who nobody knows why, but they failed, were kicked out and never heard of again.
Well …. I’m sort of one of those. And not at the same time. I failed my qualifying exam, as the title clearly states. I had a second chance to take it, and passed it with flying colors, but it was not easy …. thus, here I share my story, and some of the things I learned from that process.
Some aspects of quals remain similar across higher ed institutions. I’ve heard of people who need to read X amount of articles or books, then write long essays to answer questions on the topics they read. My guess is that this would be a more traditional approach to taking the quals. In my case the department in which I did the PhD did things differently. You had to find a topic, similar (but not identical) to something that was being done by your group, then write and defend a proposal in front of a committee. To me it was similar to presenting your thesis project’s proposal, but you didn’t have the “freedom” or input in choosing the members of your exam committee or and being helped by the boss was discouraged (but not totally frowned upon).
People, I tell you …. it was HARD. Now, one problem in my field (biochemistry and biophysics) is that not all the research starts from a traditional hypothesis. Yes, indeed we formulate hypotheses, once we have investigated/determined structures of the biological molecules we studied. But because my former department had mostly “traditional” labs, I had to follow the majority, and do a hypothesis-driven proposal.
The first complicating factor for me was choosing a topic. I went through probably 50 scientific papers before narrowing it down to 1 specific topic. Secondly, I could not have any input from my PhD mentor for topic selection, thus asking any kind of question (for instance, does this make for a sound project, or am I too ambitious?) was not allowed. Thirdly, you only had 1 month to write the proposal, and after handing it, you could be examined almost immediately. Lucky me …. I took the exam just days after handing the proposal. I was FREAKING out.
The way my qual worked out was that I stood in front of the examination committee for 2 hours, answering questions about any and all possible things that could be said about the topic. I killed the biological questions (after all, my college degree was in biological sciences, I should have been able to ace something), but when the hardcore questions came, those that were based on extrapolating knowledge, and concepts, that was the killer for me. I could not answer those well, and for it I failed.
It. Was. Though. I mean, I felt like the most stupid, idiotic, worthless piece of crap. EVER. I was devastated. I cried, I felt like I did not want to show my face around the professors from my department. I was a failure, and that’s all they would remember about me. Utter failure. Also, I felt like I was bringing shame to my group.
I thought failing this exam would define me for the rest of my life, but alas! Life does not have to be that dramatic.
I realized that there were things, knowledge I lacked. Specifically the parts of formulating a hypothesis and writing the proposal. See, during my first year of grad school all I did was try to get answers to lab related questions … basically from my sleeve (I always thought that the questions I got were from PI’s that had those same questions and wanted to get a clever answer which they had failed to come up for years … but this is just pure speculation). I came directly to grad school from an undergrad program. I had no counseling regarding the big change that involves going from spitting out memorized facts, to sitting down, ANALIZING a problem (scientific) and attempt to give a sound answer in an orderly fashion just with scientific experiments.
I guess college is supposed to prepare you for that. And while you do lab work, you supposedly learn these tips, tricks and procedures. But I can honestly say that I went through my college experience without paying attention to that. All I was focused on was getting the highest grades possible, to get into a good medical or graduate program. It was never clear to me that the concepts and problems you learned in chemistry 101 would be useful some day, and could be applied to life in general. The only time I remember something like that happening was when I was taking Physics 2 and we had to solve a couple of problems using the soh-cah-toa method (good thing I remembered, I scored a 90+ in that one). Other than that, I felt like I was just memorizing facts, and nothing more.
I could go around blaming people for the things I didn’t learn in college, or how it seems like the system failed to prepare me for grad school. Ultimately, situations like failing your quals bring you back to the reality that you are in grad school, and like my PI from the PhD used to say, you’re here because you have the capacity to teach yourself , and then apply those concept to help answer scientific questions.
At this point, my boyfriend, who’d taken at least a gazillion classes related to methodology sat me down, helped me organize my tasks and checked that my hypothesis seemed sound (now, I must tell you, the BF does not work in the “hardcore” sciences, yet his knowledge of methodology was superb and he provided support and tools that were much needed at the time). Equipped with readings the BF provided and lots of patience, I reformulated my hypothesis, re-wrote the proposal and a month after failing my qual the 1st time, I took it again (with the same committee) and passed with flying colors.
It was my moment of glory. I don’t think I’ve ever been happier. I don’t think I was this happy, not even when my committee approved my thesis and granted me degree after the defense.
The exam committee met with me, they said they were super proud and that it was beyond clear to them that I had taken the time, studied and put in the effort to make things clear, for me and for them, and for that I was worthy of passing.
All in all, I would not have it any other way. Whenever I tell this story I say it proudly, because my efforts (and a very patient and competent boyfriend) got me through the process. It is not the end of the world. And after all this, doing the research to complete the PhD seemed like a piece of cake. I can honestly say that I can probably teach myself many things, and that even if I didn’t learn some things in grad school or college, I can always look for a good book, sit down, teach myself and practice.
So there you have it. Do not feel discouraged. It is not the end of the world, and better times are ahead. Trust me … I am now a doctor
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Great to read your story! Well done! Do you have any advice to give anyone who is about to start a PhD? I’m planning to ahead in Physiology and I have no idea how to prepare myself for it! Thanks!
Hi There Maria H! I sent you an email with some links to some posts I wrote a while ago. Basically, it depends one your department and program. I was in a multi-discipline program, so I did rotations during my 1st year, then I chose a lab during my second year. If you entered thru a direct program, I’d probably start off by checking out the profs interests, talking to them (there might be open houses or seminars in which different faculty members show what they do and how they do it). If something catches your attention, don’t be shy and approach said prof or profs. If you have a lab already, a good point to start is by not only reading their articles (to get a feel for how they do science) but also read reviews which tend to give you an overview of the field, and possibly approach. That way when you get to your first lab meeting you won’t feel lost (I did, a lot, especially when I joined the lab where I did my PhD, everything seemed so foreign). Mingle, make friends and enjoy every second. Ask questions, don’t be shy, it’s the only way to learn. Oh, and read instructions … it may save you a lot of time. You may experience some ups and downs, and that’s perfectly fine. You may have doubts, we all do (if you don’t believe check out my last 2 or 3 entries). My email has more details,, but basically read, ask questions, and network. I think those are some of the very basic “rules” to follow not only in your 1st year, but throughout your life as a scientist. Congrats on starting soon! Best of luck and many thanks for reading
Your blog is awesome and I read the advice you left to Maria H and it sounds great! Could you please send me the same email you sent her with those links too because I’m also prepping to start my PhD in Physiology within a couple of months and I am so lost! Your writing is great! Thanks!
I think I entered the wrong email: its nadiahaider at gmail dot com only! Thanks!
I just re-sent it. Thanks for reading!
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This was an encouraging post!!!! It has lifted my spirit. I failed the PhD exam two times. I am currently appealing an administrative withdrawal. The mentor informed me it was citations and grammer. But, like you I want to be a doctor. Please give me some advice.
Thanks for stopping by. I hate doing this, but it’s grammar, not grammer. It is a very common mistake. That said, if you can successfully appeal your case, the first thing I’d recommend is to sit down with your boss and discuss the parts where you did well and those in which you didn’t do so well. I’d focus on those and read and practice on that, as much as possible. If it’s more about a matter of reading, you could ask your committee if they could appoint a person to check your grammar and how your document is worded. Back when I took my qual, several of the students weren’t native English speakers. The committee took this into account and made recommendations tailored to whatever “issues” they found, if any. You could potentially have a friend who’s not in school look over your document and see if it’s clear, the grammar is correct, etc. If the committee is asking that you submit your document and cite in a certain format, I’d try to meet with one of them, or whoever is in charge of graduate education in your department, and sit down and talk about how you can familiarize yourself with this style or if you can show your material to a centre for writing/reviewing, if such a place is available at your institution. A year before I started writing my thesis a new centre for consulting/evaluating documents was established at my school. Students, PIs, anyone who could benefit from it, was welcome to use it. I sent one of my first chapters there and it was a great way to familiarize myself with different document/citation styles and editing my documents and having someone from outside look at my material. I highly recommend that. Best of luck and keep me posted on what happens!
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Hey Nadia…thanks for this awesome post. I am a foreign student studying in US. I just failed my first attempt at the quals and am preparing for the next attempt. I was wondering what are the options available if I fail both attempts. I still want to stick to science.
Plz lemme know if you have any clue.
Hi Anshul, and thank you for visiting. You can stay in science, even if you fail the qual both times. One of the options I’ve heard some programs or departments offer is that if you’ve conducted part of your thesis work, you can obtain a master’s and defend that work. Some options you could explore are industry (while i was job searching I saw many posts asking for people with master’s), government or tech-like positions. If you want to stay within an academic environment you could look for positions in core-labs or academic research labs and get a staff position, which is likely to give you some extra benefits which you may not have access to while being a student or a postdoc. It’s good that you want to stay in science and want to look into your options, but for now, try to stay focused on your exam, and if obtaining your PhD is what you really want, give it your all. All the best and do let me know what you end up deciding.
Thanks a lot Nadia. Believe me, I am trying my best. But I guess, I still cant help some negativity from creeping into my mind.
Great advice though. Personally I would love to get a PhD.
Then go for it. I know how you feel, trust me, it was so hard to get over the initial shock of not passing it the first time, then taking it again and passing. It is tough, but I think that if you give it your all, you can do it. Keep me posted
, Dr. 27
Anshul,
I am also a PhD student who failed the exam twice. Don’t worry, you can appeal your situation to the university’s review board for a third chance. I recommend that you hire an editor to assist you. Best wishes on your endeavor to pass your exam. Keep in contact and let me know the outcome.
Diane
Best wishes, you can do it!!!!
Thanks Diane. Are you a foreign student too? Reason I ask is that I think the situation will be different for foreign students and so would love to get some perspective on the complications this fact creates.
Thanks again.
No, I am not a foreign student, however if you have a situtation such as feelings of depression maybe due to a break up with your significant other this can be a reason that you did not do well on the exam. It is my belief that this is an example of a reason that distracted you from doing your best on the exam. You may have a different situation that interferred. Do you understand what I mean? There are situations that interfer with student’s ability to do well; given another opportunity when you have resolved the situation will give the university’s review board something to consider in allowing you another opportunity to re-take the exam. Best wishes!
Diane
It was a relief stumbling onto this blog. I just failed my first qual last week, and it’s been a rollercoaster of emotions. I, too, am going through the feelings where I’m terrified to run into my committee members, I feel like I’ve got a big F tattooed on my face, and I’m terrified to fail the second time. It’s been a very stressful experience, made worse so by the fact that all my friends passed their first try! So imagine how that makes me feel!
But I’m being given a second shot next quarter, I believe, and it’s just really good to read success stories of people who buckled down, tried hard, and passed the second time. So thank you for sharing your story!
Hi BD. First of all, I’m so sorry about your qualifying exam. It’s such a tough time and yes, you go through the ups and downs of the process. I’m glad you found the blog and found some relief. That’s the whole reason I wrote it. I needed to get off my chest some of the frustration and I wanted to give a voice to people that go through the same experience and want the get back on the saddle and try it again. I’m glad you’re going to give it another shot. I’ll be sending you good vibes. Like you, a lot of my good friends passed it on their 1st try. I somehow felt like I was less able and capable than some of them … yet you may be surprised to know that out of 2 or 3 of my very best friends who took it and passed, only one of them, along with me ended up finishing the PhD! Do drop a line if you need to talk or something.
Wishing you a happy thanksgiving and the best in your qual, Dr 27
Thanks for the good wishes; I’ll be needing them! Have a wonderful Thanksgiving!
You’re most welcomed. All the best
I just wanted to update and let you know that after a few months of hand-wringing and stressing and wallowing in my insecurities, I, too, finally advanced to candidacy at the beginning of the month.
Thanks so much for having this blog available, and giving the rest of us a glimmer of hope when that light at the end of the tunnel momentarily disappears. Now… I just need my research to work… so I can graduate… But one step at a time.
Congratulations!!!! Oh how good. I’m so very happy for you
Congradulation on your success. I can relate to you because of this website I also was encouraged with good advise and I have passed my exam and now I am in the dissertation process. Again, congradulation!
Diane
Hi BD (and Nadia):
I am glad to know that you are being given a second chance to make amends. As nadia mentions above, the first failure is often like a wake up call. I had posted on this blog a while back about my unfavorable result in the first attempt. But after reading Nadia’s inspirational text and with a lot of support from friends and family, I passed my 2nd attempt just last week. Sure it seemed like a difficult journey (and it was), but ultimately I think that even the academic program that you are undertaking does not “want” you to fail. They just want to make sure that you are headed in the right direction in terms of your thinking about the research. Another think I feel is very important is to follow the prescribed the format (of the presentation/document) to the t. They want to make sure that you know what it takes to apply for a grant from sponsors and thus want you to religiously adhere to the instructions.
Thanks Nadia. The blog was a great help
Awww, thanks Anshul. Glad the blog was helpful. Thanks for visiting and commenting! Dr 27
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Just wanted to stop by and tell you that this post something I came back to read and re-read frequently on my journey. I too failed my generals exam (what we call it) and then rewrote, under guidance, one of the written questions and then passed with flying colors nearly 9 months later. Last week I successfully defended my dissertation and am now a doctor as well! I don’t think any of my committee members think of me that way anymore, and while I was a little superstitious and nervous – the rest of the process (writing and presenting the dissertation research) was easy in comparison. Thank you for being so open an honest in your blog (I also read your current posts too) and know that you have an influence on your readers.
Awww thank you so much Katie!! I really, really appreciate your comment. How sweet of you. I’m so happy you’re done with the thesis already. Congrats on that achievement. Here’s for many more to come! I was just reading on another blog something along these lines “write the kind of book (in my case, blog) that you would like to read.” I think that’s what keeps me going and should keep us all going. You’re so very welcome and thanks again for stopping by
I have gratitude for this blog, it helps learners who have either failed or need help to obtain graduate status. I am personal thankful for this blog, I receive excellent advice. I took it and passed my comprehensive exam. I am most grateful!!!!!
awww thanks Diane. I’m so happy you also passed the test. It is a stressful time indeed, but we can, we all can. Thanks for sharing the wonderful news
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